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#1 RoseGuardian

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:06 PM

These are three characters that are in one of my games I am working on.  I was just wondering do these drawings look okay colored in paint tool sai or should I recolor them in photoshop? I am not asking about porportions and only want comments on the shading and how to improve the shading nothing else please.  ALSO PLEASE DO NOT USE THESE IN YOUR GAMES THEY ARE NOT FOR PUBLIC USE.

 

Attached File  AliceFace1.png   77.43K   72 downloads

 

 

Attached File  KaerisFace1.png   92.05K   72 downloads

 

 

Attached File  SylissFace1.png   102.17K   41 downloads


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#2 Titanhex

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

Paint Tool Sai is a coloring and vectoring program. (Illustration)

 

Photoshop is a photo manipulation and graphics editing program. (Graphic Design)

 

When you're designing and coloring characters or scenery, you should always use the illustration program.

If you want to get better at shading check out shading tutorials and google up what the different kinds of shading are (Soft Shading, Cel Shading) (Cross-Hatching, Hatching, Scrumble, etc.)



#3 monkeynohito

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

If you'd like the characters to have a painterly manga look, SAI has better support at your fingertips for brushes and color: http://browse.devian.../?q=shading sai , but I find an editor like Photoshop, or my favorite, GIMP, to be easier for more of an anime cel-shaded look since there's more robust layer support: http://browse.devian...r=9&q=cel shade Any of the tutorials on those pages can help you a lot better than I can in this topic.

 

Either way, try not to go too wild with blur and anti-aliasing, especially around the edges, when working on game art. It's a good idea to make a layer with just flat colors that you can select and do your actual highlights and shadows on separate layers; when you select a flat area of color to work in like that, you can be sure you won't 'scribble outside the lines' and you can mess with layer blends and oppacity later on. On the other hand, a painterly style relies a lot on mixing colors and brush strokes as you work, so those sorts of digital tricks can leave your painterly art looking too bland.

 

ED: By the way, a program like XnView is really helpful if you're just interested in converting image file types, changing color depth, resizing or other stuff like that. I run -all- my pictures through XnView when I've finished them to at least cut down on file sizes; it has a great exporter with lots of options for all the save formats and great preview function to see how it might effect the final product.


Edited by monkeynohito, 04 March 2013 - 03:59 PM.

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#4 RoseGuardian

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 05:24 PM

Thank you those tutorials help a lot(:


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 04:28 AM

If you want to learn the techniques for proper cell-shading though you should really use illustrator over photoshop (Or some illustrator equivalent.)

Reason being is illustrator has a way of creating shapes and working beyond the pixel level that can be fast, efficient and offer a lot of options. I've done Cel-Shading in Illustrator and it's quick and easy.

 

That's not to say photoshop isn't a good alternative. It's quality software for a reason. And if learning illustrator when you have experience in photoshop seems like a chore you can always use photoshop.



#6 RoseGuardian

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 09:09 AM

I have adobe illustrator cs6 on my lap top but I don't know how to use it because I have not taken the college course for it yet.


RMVX Ace games I am working on:


Dragon Reign:<Sorry No Sig Bar yet>

 

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#7 Titanhex

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:59 AM

Why not just learn yourself through a tutorial?

 

My college course on Adobe Illustrator was mostly just the teacher having us learn through tutorials she found after teaching the software. She also had us find tutorials and teach the class how to do them.

 

Another great part of Adobe Illustrator is that it can do soft shading really well using gradient meshes.



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Posted 06 March 2013 - 01:11 AM

Don't let any lack of knowledge with any particular software stop you from learning though. :D The art techniques you can learn in a decent tutorial can be applied no matter what you're using. Keep up the practice and you'll figure out which programs you're comfortable with naturally.


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#9 RoseGuardian

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:37 AM

I'll try it then, the only problem is I am not sure how adobe illustrator cs6 is with .png images because that is the format for faces and charactersets in RPG Maker.  Thank you! I'll try it anyway though.

 

 

EDIT:
I'm sorry but I am sticking to Paint Tool Sai or other programs.  I can't get the gradiant tools to do anything on Adobe Ilustrator. It's too hard.


Edited by RoseGuardian, 06 March 2013 - 08:04 AM.

RMVX Ace games I am working on:


Dragon Reign:<Sorry No Sig Bar yet>

 

http://www.rpgmakerv...0-dragon-reign/

 

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None yet

 

RMXP games I am working on:
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#10 monkeynohito

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

Don't feel too bad. I'm not a fan of the Adobe products either.


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