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#1 Hokobishu

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 02:10 AM

Title Screen:

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Characters So Far:

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Races

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Locations

 

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Note: All names should be read as family name then personal. Iki is the exception as he has no family name, adopted or otherwise.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 05:28 AM

leaving an opening for a second game or sequel.

 

I once read somewhere that making games with the full intent of having a sequel is a bad idea. I agree to the extent that you may fall into various traps involving putting too much thought, focus etc. into the sequel, and ending up reducing the quality of the game. Furthermore a game should be able to be fulfilling enough in and of itself (although I am sure there is the rare exception) and you shouldn't really be looking to anger your players.

 

Personally, I would recommend a multiple-endings game where it is incredibly hard to get the good ending. You can incorporate the coming back to life as returning to the start of the game to try again. You can also, for example, add a part where the hero has to kill a bunch of innocent people, to obtain the resources needed to create a sword that can kill the leader of chaos and get the good ending. Depending on how you mold it, this may do everything that you listed as your reasons for the ending without having to rely on a sequel.

 

 

In terms of the story it's solid enough: it really depends on how you flesh it out and do what you intend on doing, and make sure its not just another "hero goes out and saves the world" game (having a non-cliche ending is no use if the rest of the game is cliche and players get bored before finishing it). If I saw the game on the boards, the premise would make me interested enough, then I would scroll down to the screenshots, characters and features to decide whether I would try playing or not.

 

A few questions:

-  Why is this guy the only one to have his home destroyed? Did the powers of chaos just twiddle their thumbs and wait for the other nine to finish their training? Was it some non-chaos related entity that destroyed it?

- Why is this guy the only one to fail? What did he do wrong that the other nine did right? If the powers of chaos are stronger this time because of the fulfillment of the prophecy, surely the hero this time should be more powerful too, right?

- According to Japanese grammar structure surely the title should be adjective noun, i.e. Kinkou Rekkoku, no?



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 06:48 AM

I like the idea very much. Many people can "warn" you that it's a bit cliché but everything is cliché nowadays (even trying to escape from it).

I agree with shi-an with mostly everything, but I understand that you ommited some info (I assume many villages were destroyed, and there is an extensive cast of characters, etc). It would be nice if you presented your cast for us.

 

A japanese-based setting seems really cool, with Shinto priests, Ainu, samurai and ninja groups.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 05:26 PM

I believe it's Kinkou Rekkoku, if anything.
Like the others, I believe your idea has a lot of potential for expansion and elaboration in order to deviate from the default "Hero saves world" story.

Was a bit put off by your "prophetic cycle" element, but I like how you've altered it to one where you decide fate, and break off from the cycle altogether.

I'm particularly interested in the element of altering your own fate. Each small action contributes to a large shift in momentum in terms of diplomacy and battling the forces of evil, or succumbing to it. I'd like to see how you tinker with this idea.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 07:25 PM

Thanks! I have a lot of great ideas in store for you guys. If I can get the resources I need, I might have a small working demo in two weeks. Also I wish more people would look at this, it gets updated every day D:


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 07:49 AM

It takes time for people to develop interest. Be patient and keep working! If you need help just ask!

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 06:11 PM

Hahaha I update this everyday with new stuff, right now I am researching and developing the database!


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 11:07 PM

I read it more carefully. I liked the fact that the main character is proficient in jojutsu instead of being the swordsman. Also, koryu means traditional school - hence the jujutsu fighter should fight unarmed:samurai practiced it as a last resource, for example, if they had lost the sword or if it broke (very usual if the opponent had a jitte or a kusari-gama). Also a hint: in our real world, some of the most effective kenjutsu schools emphasise nito (to fight with two swords). It would be pleasing to see your samurai wielding the pair of tachi and kodachi.

Sorry for the inpertinence. I am really fond of this kind of ambience and I want to help any way I can (and as a kenjutsu student probably the best I can help is with historical info.....)
Congratulations for the progress so far.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 12:35 AM

I read it more carefully. I liked the fact that the main character is proficient in jojutsu instead of being the swordsman. Also, koryu means traditional school - hence the jujutsu fighter should fight unarmed:samurai practiced it as a last resource, for example, if they had lost the sword or if it broke (very usual if the opponent had a jitte or a kusari-gama). Also a hint: in our real world, some of the most effective kenjutsu schools emphasise nito (to fight with two swords). It would be pleasing to see your samurai wielding the pair of tachi and kodachi.

Sorry for the inpertinence. I am really fond of this kind of ambience and I want to help any way I can (and as a kenjutsu student probably the best I can help is with historical info.....)
Congratulations for the progress so far.

Thanks, but I already knew Koryu meant traditional as I had researched this for two nights. There were two different schools of the same art so I wanted everyone to know it was the traditional school. I want to give my players the most realistically fun and fantasy-japanese culture themed game as possible, as well as to turn something so Cliche into something amazing :D



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 03:58 AM

Time to get this show on the road, now that I'm back and having read my own work, I will now spend the next few weeks fleshing out characters and background lore. Will base this on Japanese eras and hierarchies, but it will be it's own thing with it's own cultures and influences too.



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 11:30 AM

This isn't a comment on your story or characters, but just a suggestion that if you're very serious about this, you could try finding someone who either studied Japanese history in school, or who is from Japan. \o/

 

i think their knowledge could greatly help in making your game even better! You could ask them any questions you had, too, and i don't think it would be too hard to find someone like that.

 

My concern comes from the point that it'll be very hard to learn about these eras and hierarchies on your own, in only a week or so. It will also probably be tricky to consider different cultural customs-- such as what behaviour isn't publicly acceptable. Or how cities were built.

 

 

i.e., I remember playing an RM game that was described as a fusion between Japan and China, and being kind of... well, surprised at some parts. xD (i'm half Chinese.)


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 02:38 PM

I almost kinda think it might be better to just have some kinda generic eastern fantasy land rather then try and go for something Japanese in particular. I mean kinda like how Avatar The Last Airbender obviously was full of stuff that was based on different eastern cultures but was still clearly it's own thing. Or like how Dragonball was inspired primarily on a famous Chinese novel, and had lots of elements of Chinese and Japanese design aesthetics, but was increasingly obviously set in it's own weird world. Honestly, I almost kinda want to see more RPGs with some more exotic examples of western folklore, Norse, Celtic, Irish, Slavic and Russian stuff like Domovoi and Rusalkas. And of course lots of fairies. Or maybe I just want to see another Quest for Glory 4.

 

Also: I kinda wish you were able to choose the main character's gender or even have the main character be female (either way with the exact same personality), but I kinda say that about every game. :3



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Posted Yesterday, 03:53 AM

Hahaha the idea here is that it is based on Japanese culture in the 12th to 15th century, doesn't mean it IS the culture from said time period. Having an interest in Asian cultures, it will have a mix, after all, it IS a fantasy game and it IS my own vision. :)









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